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Post by Light on Mar 4, 2009 15:23:24 GMT -7
Of course it's oppression, but most of what parent's do is something that could be called oppression, and it's nearly impossible to draw any sort of line for that sort of thing, much less enforce it. If the parents decide a child will be dedicated, the child will be dedicated, and they can stay within the realm of being called good parents. Anyone who takes part in a school that wants to teach religion as true will likely grow some resent for the government that outlaws it. Any child who goes there will probably pick up some of that resent, and we all know how impressionable kids are.
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Post by millis on Mar 4, 2009 15:33:38 GMT -7
Tell me about it, kids are very impressionable... I disagree that parents use a system of oppression, on any real level, to raise a child. Yes religion in itself could be described as oppression of free thinking, but a parent enforcing it is merely continuing what they were taught at such a oung age and grew to believe. I agree though, if a government outlaws the teaching of their religion as a serious subject, resentment is almost bound to build, unwise if a country is prdominently religious over athiesism or agnostics.
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Post by Light on Mar 4, 2009 15:46:50 GMT -7
Well, I wasn't trying to say that they always use oppression, just that alot of it could be called oppressive if we tried to draw any sort of line. Honestly, I'm all for them continuing their belief through their child, it's one of the main reasons parents have kids. My mother once said she'd failed because both of her children strayed from Christianity.
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Post by millis on Mar 4, 2009 15:52:27 GMT -7
Could be considered failure because she now thinks you aren't going to heaven, which is kind of a failure in her eyes...they have kids because its what we're here for whether you're religious or not, its the main function of the human body. As for the oppression, I can see what you mean, but i dont class it as oppression. Parents draw lines due to their own worries/fears/experiences in youth, not to oppress their young, unless they're not very nice parents...
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Post by Light on Mar 4, 2009 16:11:01 GMT -7
Eh...even not-nice parents draw a line somewhere, I'm just saying there's no line that everyone could agree on. And I think the whole "failure" thing has more to do with the idea that there should be more believers in the world.
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Post by millis on Mar 4, 2009 16:12:33 GMT -7
I guess, though failure to bring your kids into the arms off god must be a pretty hard thing for a christian, given the whole heaven thing, and thats the problem, kids push boundaries, lines have to be set or you just get tearaways like the brats that live around my area
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Post by electroshock on Mar 4, 2009 21:14:11 GMT -7
Unfortunately, it's a never ending circle. Most parents deem it necessary to force religion because that's what they were forced upon by their parents and so on.
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Post by millis on Mar 5, 2009 0:30:28 GMT -7
What I'm saying is a religious parent wont see it as forcing. They want their kids to believe in God, for whatever reason I have no idea, not being religious, but basically they want their kids to feel like they feel, close to God, somethin to believe in, blah blah blah. They're doing the good deed, children who break away are doing the bad thing, even if they themselves believe free thinking is better than believing in a God.
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Post by Light on Mar 5, 2009 1:10:13 GMT -7
Well, the basic goal of Christianity is (or was, I'm not really sure anymore) to have everyone in the world believing in it. By achieving this, some big thing happens, I forget, but I think the want for kids to believe in god in the vain hope that all other religions will just stop reproducing.
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Post by millis on Mar 5, 2009 4:10:24 GMT -7
I think the overall goal of a christian really depends on the extreme of the believer. My friend, who is a lax christian, though she follows the rules and such she has never once tried to convert any of her friends, told them tey are going to hell or whatever, or anything else some people seeme to have told the people around them. She simply lets you be. Another friend I know has been disowned by her mother for no longer believing in god. I guess its just something some people will never get over.
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Post by electroshock on Mar 5, 2009 15:15:50 GMT -7
Who knew, all those thousands of years ago, that a way to explain why the sun rises each day would lead to, well, all this.
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